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#1 2008-02-28 19:30:18

Apox
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Newest PTR build, WTF

Shaman
- Flametongue weapon puts an "MS" (50% healing reduction) on your current target. 5 Second duration, refreshes every hit. (Screenshot)
- Toughness: Increases your armor value from items by 2/4/6/8/10%, and reduces the duration of movement impairing effects on you by 10/20/30/40/50%. (Screenshot)
- Shamanistic Rage changed: Reduces all damage taken by 30% and gives your successful melee attacks a chance to regenerate mana equal to 30% of your attack power. Lasts 15 seconds.
- Global Cooldown of totems reduced by .5 seconds

That's pretty imba if you ask me.


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#2 2008-02-28 19:40:38

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

oO

...

okay, who has replaced the old developers?!


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#3 2008-02-28 20:20:37

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Sounds nice yikes
pew pew

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#4 2008-02-28 20:56:19

Apox
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Oh, and Instant cast ghostwolf = FUUUUN

and it's only 100 mana, which makes it practically free.


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#5 2008-02-29 01:26:17

Baloth
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Apox wrote:

Oh, and Instant cast ghostwolf = FUUUUN

and it's only 100 mana, which makes it practically free.

now, give us more HoTs and we can start kiting like resto druids


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#6 2008-02-29 01:45:53

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

The new changes made me wanna play shaman again tbh, atleast for a little while tongue
Only thing I hate about the class atm is that enhancement sucks balls in PvP, but with the new changes it might not be so bad.


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#7 2008-02-29 01:55:47

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

priests will drop like flies


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#8 2008-02-29 02:06:03

Joly
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From: Bergen, Norway
Registered: 2005-08-24
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

WTB nerf


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#9 2008-02-29 02:46:36

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

yeah because pvp is not nearly healer-unfriendly enough


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#10 2008-02-29 03:48:55

Baloth
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

I suppose enhancement shamans could go WF main hand flametoungue off-hand, or both flametoungue if your really stupid/supportive based. Doing so will drain your dps by a fair amount.
One things for surtain, I'll add some healers to my list of ppl to kill on my resto shammy.

Imo, there is no point in picking flametoungue over windfury. Not to mention flametoungue is crap damage. I don't see a point in putting such effect on it.

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#11 2008-02-29 05:54:05

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Chimp wrote:

yeah because pvp is not nearly healer-unfriendly enough

Word. Did some BG's as a resto shammy tonight... Jesus fucking christ this game is retarded.... Rogues, warriors, warlocks and hunters burst me down in around 3 seconds.
As someone in the WoW forums said; Blizzards way of giving something PvP viability is just to give them more resilience and mortal strike. It's not allowed to think outside the box for once.
Can't wait to see the Deathknight's mortal strikes, fears, stuns, slows, disorients and dispels.


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#12 2008-03-02 07:11:37

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

- Flametongue Weapon
new: Imbue the Shaman's weapon with fire. Each hit causes 9.3 to 28.64 additional Fire damage, based on the speed of the weapon and reduces all healing done to the target by 25% for 5 seconds. The healing reduction effect stacks up to 0 times. Lasts 30 minutes.

Nerfed already, after 2 days.
50% would make it a "maybe" in pvp. 25% just makes it "no way, WF instead"


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#13 2008-03-02 15:08:09

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Apox wrote:

- Flametongue Weapon
new: Imbue the Shaman's weapon with fire. Each hit causes 9.3 to 28.64 additional Fire damage, based on the speed of the weapon and reduces all healing done to the target by 25% for 5 seconds. The healing reduction effect stacks up to 0 times. Lasts 30 minutes.

Nerfed already, after 2 days.
50% would make it a "maybe" in pvp. 25% just makes it "no way, WF instead"

Stacks twice, so not really nerfed


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#14 2008-03-02 17:09:49

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Draken wrote:

Apox wrote:

- Flametongue Weapon
new: Imbue the Shaman's weapon with fire. Each hit causes 9.3 to 28.64 additional Fire damage, based on the speed of the weapon and reduces all healing done to the target by 25% for 5 seconds. The healing reduction effect stacks up to 0 times. Lasts 30 minutes.

Nerfed already, after 2 days.
50% would make it a "maybe" in pvp. 25% just makes it "no way, WF instead"

Stacks twice, so not really nerfed

seems like this change was made so it would only benefit enhancement shamans, because otherwise a resto shaman could just run up with his insta GW and melee the nuke target once before they dps him down.


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#15 2008-03-02 20:45:07

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Didn't notice the 2 stacks stuff until after I posted smile
Anyways, it's a nice group pvp change, but 1vs1 it doesn't change much as you'd most likely have to run with dual windfury to have the dps needed to kill someone.
Step in the right direction, and better than nothing though.
The 50% reduced duration on snares is a good change though.


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#16 2008-03-02 21:05:24

Golrock
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

1v1 balance will not be achieved ever, because no one really cares about 1v1 pvp on a serious level.


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#17 2008-03-02 21:20:49

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

At least blizzard are trying to give your class more than 1 viable spec for arena.


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#18 2008-03-02 21:34:09

Apox
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Couldn't care less about arena smile


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#19 2008-03-03 02:17:30

Golrock
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Apox wrote:

Couldn't care less about arena smile

you are quite alone with that smile


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#20 2008-03-03 03:34:36

Baloth
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Golrock wrote:

Apox wrote:

Couldn't care less about arena smile

you are quite alone with that smile

actually he isn't


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#21 2008-03-03 05:11:49

Ino
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Baloth wrote:

Golrock wrote:

Apox wrote:

Couldn't care less about arena smile

you are quite alone with that smile

actually he isn't

you two are alone on that then tongue


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#22 2008-03-03 09:40:58

Boltan
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Ino wrote:

Baloth wrote:

Golrock wrote:


you are quite alone with that :)

actually he isn't

you two are alone on that then :P

us three. shamans are such underdogs there that its just too big a pain to try and make an effort :(


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#23 2008-03-03 11:38:57

Joly
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Registered: 2005-08-24
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Boltan wrote:

Ino wrote:

Baloth wrote:


actually he isn't

you two are alone on that then tongue

us three. shamans are such underdogs there that its just too big a pain to try and make an effort sad

i haev a muffin


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#24 2008-03-03 15:51:14

Baloth
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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Joly wrote:

Boltan wrote:

Ino wrote:


you two are alone on that then tongue

us three. shamans are such underdogs there that its just too big a pain to try and make an effort sad

i haev a muffin

can you like, choke on it? smile


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#25 2008-03-03 16:03:12

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Re: Newest PTR build, WTF

Baloth wrote:

Joly wrote:

Boltan wrote:


us three. shamans are such underdogs there that its just too big a pain to try and make an effort sad

i haev a muffin

can you like, choke on it? smile

i wanna quote something in this post too

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