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#1 2008-10-11 07:14:13

sweter
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Mages: help ;)

So, I'm, back after one years' break, got no addons, no sense of what happened in last year at all, etc, no macros... Could any good soul just make a quick recap on buffs/nerfs that mages had in the last year? Or maybe some new cool mods? Or macros that I never thought they existed? smile TIA smile

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#2 2008-10-11 08:55:30

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Re: Mages: help ;)

mages are now primary crowd controllers, and should never attempt to do any dps (pve perspective) since hunters and warriors have the nasty habit of breaking cc all the time wink


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#3 2008-10-11 09:05:55

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Re: Mages: help ;)

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#4 2008-10-11 16:56:26

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Re: Mages: help ;)

you'll get mirror image (three copies of yourself casting alongside you) in Wrath. 'nuff said.


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#5 2008-10-11 16:58:51

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Re: Mages: help ;)

Naah but to be fair, its same of the old smile Manage cooldowns and mana a bit, chuck potions all you can and nuke away while attending to your marked sheep/penguin(glyph in wrath)/turtle/pig.

I just played on my mage for some time for the first time in like 1,5 years.. and I totally had forgot how they could dish out the damage and control everything. Especially as frost.


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#6 2008-10-11 17:21:44

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Re: Mages: help ;)

MAGE CAN POLUMORF AN SJOOT FIAH


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#7 2008-10-11 17:51:01

Aya
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Re: Mages: help ;)

reroll before its too late !

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#8 2008-10-11 18:01:39

Baloth
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From: Groningen, Netherlands
Registered: 2005-07-18
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Re: Mages: help ;)

don't believe em sweter, go mage!


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#9 2008-10-11 18:45:01

Aya
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Re: Mages: help ;)

wel mages do suck tbh in tbc : p
just check the sunwell end bosses setups  usually just 1 mage for foodtable :<

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#10 2008-10-11 20:42:46

Wrion
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Registered: 2007-08-23
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Re: Mages: help ;)

Ice Block is now trainable and Cold Snap has been moved to its former place in frost tree. New 11th frost talent is Icy Veins.
Deep arcane isn't a viable raid spec anymore due to TLC and MSD nerfs.
2/47/11+1 has taken 10/47/3+1's place as the most common fire raiding build due to significant damage increase from Icy Veins, however 0/40/21 does remotely better single target DPS and thus is the spec preferred in top min maxer guilds.
40/0/21 does also competitive damage but it requires a lot more group support and is the trickiest mage spec to play.

EDIT: Nowadays spell haste is the best stat for DPS.
EDIT2: Hit is still better before the cap.

Last edited by Wrion (2008-10-13 10:51:27)


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#11 2008-10-13 09:56:20

sweter
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Re: Mages: help ;)


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#12 2008-10-13 10:50:18

Wrion
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Re: Mages: help ;)


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#13 2008-10-13 11:07:37

sweter
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Re: Mages: help ;)

Hm, You wrote that the deep arcane (40/0/21, AB/FB rotation or pure AB spam) is not a vialable raiding spec anymore because 2 trinkets got nerfed and cos there's alot of new  +haste gear around. I don't exactly get why.  Does fire spells benefit more from +haste? And, if yes, why?


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#14 2008-10-13 11:20:27

Wrion
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Re: Mages: help ;)

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#15 2008-10-13 18:00:33

sweter
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Re: Mages: help ;)


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#16 2008-10-13 19:57:24

Wrion
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Re: Mages: help ;)


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#17 2008-10-14 07:49:35

Aya
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Re: Mages: help ;)

but since mages are having mana issues they are lowering the costs of fireballs frostfirebolts & frostbolts etc
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arcane in 3.0 seems imba for pvp so far <333 in pve gear atleast

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#18 2008-10-14 16:27:41

Baloth
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From: Groningen, Netherlands
Registered: 2005-07-18
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Re: Mages: help ;)

Tho I'm planning a big reroll for myself back to mage when wotlk hits I haven't taken a lot of time to look over the mage changes. The class itself has allways turned out ok for me whatever the change.


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