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#1 2013-04-03 20:57:06

Aliothe
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for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

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#2 2013-04-04 00:36:10

Lamme
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

It's sim'ed, hence near worthless. That it is "realistic" bares no real meaning.

To prove my point - as per your link, the single strongest dps spec is arcane mage. Out of 120 top ToT ranks (10 for each boss), 8 are taken by these these. Next spec should be frost mage, and there's 0 of these. Weakest mage spec ought to be fire and I count 13 representants. Total opposite of sims. 7th strongest spec is supposed to be assasination rogue and they are all over the ranks, couldn't be bothered to count, by far the dominating spec. 8th strongest spec, however, BM hunter, hasn't got a single rank (same goes for the 2 other hunter specs, all 3 above SPs as per your link).

Meanwhile, SPs have a total of 4 ranks.

All this is not meant to convince anyone that SPs are overpowered, but claiming the opposite isn't justified either. If anything, they could do with a slight single target buff. Not to mention the utility, but that's a completely different story.

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#3 2013-04-04 02:12:59

Sagidu
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

It is surprising you have not deleted your SP yet.

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#4 2013-04-04 08:10:55

Manigon
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

I can see that theres 4 spriest on top 10 ranks in ToT and one warrior. So I guess that it means that spriest are twice as good as warriors dps wise?
But in some way your right. On the first boss in ToT we should not expect a spreist as top dps. But if we look at our dpsmeters and look on the top guilds dpsmeters theres still shadowpriest in top guilds that beat every dps from our guild on all the fight.

My conclusion is: Spreist are maby not the best dps class single target. Never heard about anyone calling sps overpowered in pve. And if your doing your rotation to perfection you would be able to be number 1 on dps in our guild!

http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/

Can't say if they fixed the bug. But would say that this is a better picture of the dps situation than any simulation.

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#5 2013-04-04 09:43:16

Aliothe
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

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#6 2013-04-04 09:56:38

Aliothe
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Sagidu wrote:

It is surprising you have not deleted your SP yet.

wtf kinda comment is this?

If you have nothing constructive to say then please refrain from saying anything at all.

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#7 2013-04-04 18:57:56

Lamme
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

I gotta say that looking at the links you posted Aliothe only makes me believe I'm right. SPs high, SPs low. If anything, I'd admit warlocks are stronger than priests. Which in no way means SPs are doing half bad. And I still think slight single target dps boost would be in order.

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#8 2013-04-04 22:13:22

Tasteofdeath
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Registered: 2011-10-20
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Of course this isn't taking into account gear, level of skill, pure RNG and all the other factors of a boss fight.

Don't get me wrong priests have always been the weird class to balance around due to PvP in a whole which in return screws over PvE.

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#9 2013-04-06 14:13:34

Aliothe
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#10 2013-04-06 14:55:03

Manigon
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Is the video an argument? Aliothe?

This is the first spine kill in 4.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHeTNr7xzM

They have only rouges and arcane mages. Does that mean that arcane mages and rouges was the best spec and classes?

And if we are using your logic method are doing something wrong cause they are using demo warlock that by noxxic is the worst dps class:
http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings/maximum#522

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#11 2013-04-06 15:14:51

Aliothe
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Manigon wrote:

Is the video an argument? Aliothe?

This is the first spine kill in 4.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHeTNr7xzM

They have only rouges and arcane mages. Does that mean that arcane mages and rouges was the best spec and classes?

You know why they stacked those there.
On Lei Shen hc it's the whole fight that is, gasp, mostly a single target fight.

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#12 2013-04-06 18:32:10

Manigon
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Its not, they stacked heavy aoe classes to get the orbs down as fast as they can. So boomkins and demo warlocks.

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#13 2013-04-06 20:41:14

Divineholy
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Registered: 2011-11-28
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Re: for those who still think sps are op in any way pvewise

Well atleast if you look at the BiS gear bit they have some of a boost there :p

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