The Enigma Order

Obscure · 2005-07-31 20:15:54

Ok priests.. we may not have the longest swords, or the flashiest armors, but without us, the Enigma Order is without a chance in the Molten Core... And i have heard, from certain sources, that the MC bosses holds nice items for us priests as well . Even if we have still yet to see items in the mythical "Vestments of Prophecy". When this happens, and in case of other "pure priest items", we will distribute the loot following a list of our current priests. It is very hard to make everyone happy, but we will try..

Our current list is the following

- Tully
- Iddqd
- Obscure
- Laki
- Gyda
- Kohn
- Nripgodia

If any new priest joins us, he will of course end up last in the list. (here im not sure.. but i would like to do it this way.. even if he will end up recieving items pretty quick this way.. we could let it be attractive to be a healer in TEO... and at some point, soon, we will have enough priests)

Problems:
1 • Lets say you won an item that druids and mages also rolled on, for example the Choker of Enlightenment, and it's also your turn on the list, what happens?
---The won item will count as your turn. As it would be unfair to win 2 items the same run. (check the fifth problem)

2 • What happens if the next one on the list dont attend the run?
--- The item will go to the next one on the list, and the absent person will get item the next time he/she attends. I will monitor the list carefully.

3 • What happens if a priest dont do MC at all, but joins in just when it's his turn, and gets loot.
--- As I said.. I will watch these runs. Even if I'm not always in them. And a person that never attends, will ofc be reminded of his/her behaviour. We understand that someone sometimes may be unable to play when the rest of the guild is doing MC, but a person that never attends, only when its his/her turn to get loot, will recieve a warning.

4 • What about random priests that join our guildraids?
--- Yes... Tricky.. because we will probably need extra help in the future... I say we let the random player roll, together with the rest of us, and we dont let it count as anyones turn. I will look at this...

5 • Its my turn, but i dont want/need the item that dropped.
--- No worries, you can pass, and save your turn for the next drop. If every priest passes, we random it...

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Obscure · 2005-08-01 00:18:44

Or should we go with the "Luck" system, with one item pr week/run, and random rolling?

I would really like to hear your opinion.

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noirin · 2005-08-01 01:09:01

As im about to hit lvl60 (50k as this i writen) I think the first idea is very good, in that way you will get an item at some point, and not if you unlucky all the time and doesn't get anything. (sry for my bad english)

/Noirin

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Obscure · 2005-08-01 01:34:06

yes.. I thikn we will try this one out.. and after all.. soon we will be able to do several bosses in one run, and maybe get more than one priest item each run

Apox · 2005-08-01 02:52:52

IMO this is not needed for priests, any more than any other class. I would recommend you to roll freely in our runs. Why would Nripgodia for instance now want to come to MC for atleast the 6 next runs?

Obscure · 2005-08-01 03:04:03

well. he has shown no interrest on our last three runs.. so

And we kind of agreed that we all were sensible enough to do our part, even if it wasnt "our turn" to get loot... wich is what MC is all about..
Later on, we may very well see up to 6 priest drops in one run... we saw two warrior drops on three bosses today, so everything is possible...

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kohn · 2005-08-01 05:23:08

It sounded ok for me in the start we begin talkin' about this system u referring to Obscure. But i most say the Randon roll and one item per run like all "others" in guild use sounds easier and more fair.. This cycle thingie is really.. boring(i can't find a better word right now becuz i should be asleep)

I need to w8 for 5 priests to win a god damm roll. sorry for the language but then u can see how much i don't like it

And. I could aswell just sit sight in GuildChat. w8 for all the other priests win they're rolls and then i join in for mine rolling instance.

Again i must say the DKP system is something i like. 1 item per run. bidding with ur DKP that u got while playing raids. It's fair for all classes. Those who play more then others, gets more. The major guilds on the server use it with succes. so why not?

Sorry for my spelling but as i said. 04:25 at night and i can't even look tru my eyes anymore.. need glasses!!!!

Obscure · 2005-08-01 05:58:46

Ok.. I agree that it may be just as good with random, but let me just look at your comment a bit...

kohn wrote:
It sounded ok for me in the start we begin talkin' about this system u referring to Obscure. But i most say the Randon roll and one item per run like all "others" in guild use sounds easier and more fair.. This cycle thingie is really.. boring(i can't find a better word right now becuz i should be asleep)

I need to w8 for 5 priests to win a god damm roll. sorry for the language but then u can see how much i don't like it

With this system, there would be no rolling for you to wait for, and we aim to get more and more bosses done each run. So we're most likely to get 1-3 items usable by priests. And did you really expect to get an item, as the latest priest to join our guild, when we have priests who have been with us for months?

kohn wrote:
And. I could aswell just sit sight in GuildChat. w8 for all the other priests win they're rolls and then i join in for mine rolling instance.

This is reason to kick a person from the guild. This is also a problem we may face with any looting system. Read my "problem #3", my next comment, and denatus MC-loot rules.

kohn wrote:
Again i must say the DKP system is something i like. 1 item per run. bidding with ur DKP that u got while playing raids. It's fair for all classes. Those who play more then others, gets more. The major guilds on the server use it with succes. so why not?

Why not? Because we, in fact, are NOT a major guild. We have too many casual gamers with us. This will eventually end up in your previous theory, with ppl rather sitting in IF, looking at the guildchat, because they know they don't have enough DKPs to get any item at all.

But like I said, I wanted comments, and we may end up just using random rolling... specially since our "system" didnt get compromised by a priest drop today.

Muldvarpen · 2005-08-12 05:10:32

DKP is the way to go i feel, giving people a reason to do more MC runs, to earn points.

Now that DKP has been enforced, i feel you should stop this priest thing. We had some rogues try it in Dark Ritual, they talked about what loot they would each like, and they would then not bid on "each others" items. This resulted in a lot of rogues getting stuff for very little points. The downside come when stuff like rings / necks drops, that warriors / pala / hunters would also like, then the rogues have much more points than these guys...

So, use DKP and bid openly on items just a friendly help

Obscure · 2005-08-12 12:51:15

When the DKP system starts, we will indeed "stop this priest thing". DKP have always been an option with the counsil, but we have been afraid that it will scare away gamers who dont play that often.

Obscure · 2006-09-22 05:02:47

lol

Paelen · 2006-09-22 13:40:43

Obscure wrote:
lol

Stop playing around with old posts, I get a headace

Quip · 2006-09-22 13:48:49

ROFL...

i want loot too..im not on that list

( i wasnt even in the guild when this post was made )

Paelen · 2006-09-22 13:55:33

Quip wrote:
ROFL...

i want loot too..im not on that list

( i wasnt even in the guild when this post was made )

YOU NO GET PROPHECY NO!

Obscure · 2006-09-22 14:08:59

haha this was my effort to avoid the DKP system, wich in the end only did me good (as sahdowpriest).

Paelen · 2006-09-22 14:15:33

Shadowpriests are really imba, I don't understand why we don't have a couple just for fun and dps

Obscure · 2006-09-22 14:18:05

we do have a shadowpriest: me.
and at one point or another, i think all our priests have been shadow. except mystic maybe? but she has a warlock.

Quip · 2006-09-22 14:19:59

i was shadow..and i actually have imba shadow gear, but i thought i gimped myself to much as a healer in raids with the shadowbuild..because you almost never go dmg in raids as a priest..you are there to heal not dmg in most casses

Paelen · 2006-09-22 14:25:23

yeah I know, but nice to have at least one shadowpriest who is totally "shadow" talented. Otherwise it's just a waste as you say Quip

Obscure · 2006-09-22 14:30:00

we have one of those, paelen. i go full shadow if i can. and i go dmg out of shadowform if i fear i have to heal something.

Paelen · 2006-09-22 14:48:29

Obscure wrote:
we have one of those, paelen. i go full shadow if i can. and i go dmg out of shadowform if i fear i have to heal something.

As said, it's nice to have at least one I think it could have been misunderstood hehe

Mystic · 2006-09-22 14:49:43

Obscure wrote:
we do have a shadowpriest: me.
and at one point or another, i think all our priests have been shadow. except mystic maybe? but she has a warlock.

I went shadow in the summer for about a week.. i thought it was boring

Paelen · 2006-09-22 14:53:40

Mystic wrote:
Obscure wrote:
we do have a shadowpriest: me.
and at one point or another, i think all our priests have been shadow. except mystic maybe? but she has a warlock.
I went shadow in the summer for about a week.. i thought it was boring

Wasn't it pretty cool in pvp? I could imagine it to be fun with mindblast all curse of pain or whatever you guys use

Mystic · 2006-09-22 14:58:50

nah.. im a healer in heart and blood (when i play my priest that is ofc ) hehe...

And i kinda hate PvP

Paelen · 2006-09-22 15:01:35

hehe, if you love healing so much, then you can go and heal my mage while I'm grinding tomorrow

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