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#1 2007-05-14 23:30:16

Ninjashammy
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Going Enhancement

Hey you guys just want to inform you that i will not be able to heal in your noobish groups anymore.

Im gonna get my Gladiator 1h now then i got decent melee gear . 10 EpiXXs because i only care about the purples.

Maybe will become abit less active since my gf and picked up our relationship where we left it 4 mounths ago. *cheers*

But the main reason i go Enhancement IS that i want to prove shamans are capable to pull out some dmg in raids

GOOD GOING NOOBS

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#2 2007-05-15 00:08:32

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Re: Going Enhancement

What's there to prove? We all know shamans can do good dps


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#3 2007-05-15 00:24:11

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Re: Going Enhancement

Not what ive seen on many forums and such. Everyone are sayin that we only are good for buffs. we have nice buffs that true but we also can do decent/good dmg in raids


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#4 2007-05-15 00:30:18

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From: Oostelbeers, The Netherlands
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Re: Going Enhancement

Have fun getting aggro!


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#5 2007-05-15 01:04:35

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Re: Going Enhancement

Timelapse shard and stuff FT..W?


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#6 2007-05-15 01:13:52

arilia
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Re: Going Enhancement

LuL, dont buy new arena weapons so close to the next Arena season, which will release new improved weapons.

Atleast, that's the word.


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#7 2007-05-15 01:23:06

Baloth
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Re: Going Enhancement

been thinking about going enhancement myself aswell, though I like healing I just get far too much complaints about my lack of skill 'n shit


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#8 2007-05-15 01:25:14

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Re: Going Enhancement

Baloth wrote:

been thinking about going enhancement myself aswell, though I like healing I just get far too much complaints about my lack of skill 'n shit

That just means you got to get back on the horse and learn it by doing. No one can get it right the first time. And to people complaining. Offer either pointers, helpful advice, or then dont say those negative comments tongue they only make healers nervous and aggravated. And I have great trust in belg's skillzors. Have no doubt he can do every bit any other shaman can.


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#9 2007-05-15 01:43:33

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Re: Going Enhancement

arilia wrote:

LuL, dont buy new arena weapons so close to the next Arena season, which will release new improved weapons.

Atleast, that's the word.

When will that come? next patch? o.O or in liek 2mounths?


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#10 2007-05-15 01:52:14

Apox
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Re: Going Enhancement

I would like to try dps in raids too, but I guess my class is the only one who isn't allowed to do that.


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#11 2007-05-15 02:06:12

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Re: Going Enhancement

Apox wrote:

I would like to try dps in raids too, but I guess my class is the only one who isn't allowed to do that.

Who said any class is not allowed to do dps in teo?


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#12 2007-05-15 02:42:23

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Re: Going Enhancement

sweter wrote:

Apox wrote:

I would like to try dps in raids too, but I guess my class is the only one who isn't allowed to do that.

Who said any class is not allowed to do dps in teo?

me, mage should always be liek healz0r!
seriously though, i think we're very easygoing on that matter yikes,
although you may be asked to off-heal when the need arrises.


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#13 2007-05-15 02:55:49

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Re: Going Enhancement

sweter wrote:

Apox wrote:

I would like to try dps in raids too, but I guess my class is the only one who isn't allowed to do that.

Who said any class is not allowed to do dps in teo?

Well not directly, but knowing the size of the raids these days, signing up as paladin dps/backup heal, you sure as hell wouldn't get a spot.
But to be honest, it doesn't matter much, I won't sign up as dps on my pally as long as it doesn't benefit the raid in any way.


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#14 2007-05-15 03:10:39

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From: Norway, Bergen
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Re: Going Enhancement

Baloth wrote:

been thinking about going enhancement myself aswell, though I like healing I just get far too much complaints about my lack of skill 'n shit

I think part of being a healer is to listen to nuubs blaming you for doing a lousy job themself tongue

Don't be so hard on yourself. From what I've seen healing in raids takes time to get used to. And you still gearing up.

Ninjashammy you always drain your self for mana in 2 minutes when meelee tongue so if a fights lasts for 15 minutes you have 13 minutes with white dmg.

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#15 2007-05-15 03:12:05

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Registered: 2005-07-23
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Re: Going Enhancement

Webser wrote:

Ninjashammy you always drain your self for mana in 2 minutes when meelee tongue so if a fights lasts for 15 minutes you have 13 minutes with white dmg.

That is why shamans have so much spirit on their gear. They should have at least smile

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#16 2007-05-15 04:26:21

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Re: Going Enhancement

i remember seeing a shaman, i think it was you ninja, you were on top of the dps meter at the mobs b4 curator i think with 500+ dps


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#17 2007-05-15 05:32:24

Baloth
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From: Groningen, Netherlands
Registered: 2005-07-18
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Re: Going Enhancement

situation was like this in botanica
[Palt]: shaman, are u good healer?
[Palt]: shaman, how much +healing do you have?
[Me]: <tells his amount of +healing which has increased with a lot last week>
[Palt]: thats not much rly
[Me]: well then you grab your bandages if you think you can do a better job

the other mage was like, really cool and trying to calm us down but moments later Palt the mage left anyway because we died, like 3 times because he overnuked and didn't give tank agro

I hate people like that so lamme just a little pointer, don't do what you did in shattered halls today again smile I'm not bluffing when I'm saying I won't heal you wink
and I'm sure lamme will comment that it's only that he wanted to die that he died, I saw you run for your life you little gnome!
I'm gonna give healing another shot but for some reason I don't think shamans were meant to be good healers at end-game content.


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#18 2007-05-15 12:38:24

Lamme
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Registered: 2005-08-21
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Re: Going Enhancement

Baloth wrote:

been thinking about going enhancement myself aswell, though I like healing I just get far too much complaints about my lack of skill 'n shit

I've been hanging a lot with Baloth's shaman on my little creazy gnome warrior alt so I can comment on this!
You manage to keep the gnome alive - can't be bad. One thing that worries me when we're into some imba-three-pack-at-a-time pulls is your mana pool, but seriosuly - on one hand that's not my bussines, on the other hand - I can do well without mana, so should you.

I was even thinking on leaeving that Shattered Halls accident with no comment, but I changed my mind -

Baloth wrote:

and I'm sure lamme will comment that it's only that he wanted to die that he died, I saw you run for your life you little gnome!

Nope, I did not wanted to die, that's a given. But I could have avoided it easily (just staying back since you would dps the elite easily). Just thought that an execute is a good idea with 48 hp. Turns out it wasn't.

Bit then again - I did execute the final boss there down and was left with _one_ hp.

All in all and bit more serious - your healing is good. Very good. What else to expect from a skilled player?
And as far as class capabilities go, I can very well imagine a mage will only feel relatively safe when he has a priest to sheild him. To the point where he get enough skills not to aggro (at least not to much). So just ignore those comment.

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#19 2007-05-15 14:27:15

Baloth
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Re: Going Enhancement

About my mana pool, yep it's not that big, just reached the point where I have 8k unbuffed, but I'm getting there, 10k would be a goal for now. We've been taunting eachother off and on Lamme quoting I'm too weak to let you die or I'm bluffing, fact is I just don't like to see the tank dead and he gets my main attention. The only reason I let you die there was simply a joke smile because you said I couldn't do it. The reason why you were left with 1 hp at bladefist in shattered halls was because I had just taken a beating from the adds, died and resurrected to finish off what we started, if I didn't heal you with all the mana I ressed with even you would've been dead and it would've been a wipe.
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#20 2007-05-15 14:49:02

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Registered: 2007-03-24
Posts: 1287

Re: Going Enhancement

Well,
healing, tanking in raid, is a chellenge.

Dps is job for nuubs ^^

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Belgathor, keeping Lamme Warr alive is imba job since i cannot force him to pull mobs back instead of tank them when they stands after a charge big_smile

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#21 2007-05-15 15:12:59

Ninjashammy
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Re: Going Enhancement

Webser wrote:

Baloth wrote:

been thinking about going enhancement myself aswell, though I like healing I just get far too much complaints about my lack of skill 'n shit

I think part of being a healer is to listen to nuubs blaming you for doing a lousy job themself tongue

Don't be so hard on yourself. From what I've seen healing in raids takes time to get used to. And you still gearing up.

Ninjashammy you always drain your self for mana in 2 minutes when meelee tongue so if a fights lasts for 15 minutes you have 13 minutes with white dmg.

Guess i have to be more mana conserve. And i know i wont get a spot in raids because webser want me to be healer xD. Tho ive been looking on armory and most good guilds got atleast 1 enhancement shaman its imba buffs.

oom? not with 41 points in enhancement. And shamans dont use that much mana as meelee because they alrdy have huge aggro on WF/white hits. Totems and a shock once in a while dont cost that much mana=)

Im sick of some stuff in resto tho. Mana tide still not trainable, Huge aggro on heals, Aggro on earth shiled proccs(lol) And the mana costs of our heal. And we still dont heal as much as a pala/priest but we go oom faster o.O. And priests got prayer of mending that heals more the earth shield without +healing so what use is earth shield lawl.

Then i have a bet with my m8 that im gonna top dps meter in ML....

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#22 2007-05-15 15:35:15

Warsaw
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Registered: 2007-03-24
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Re: Going Enhancement

Ninjashammy wrote:

Then i have a bet with my m8 that im gonna top dps meter in ML....

No offence m8ty but if someone is going to ML to be first in DM... sigh. You know that most important duty for rogues it to interrupt heals for example? Hunters have to freeze trap, mage to counterspell etc. Now, if they will all be looking on dm, M will die in 1st tryout wanna bet? wink

It's nice to doing instances with ppl looking for overall profit of the raid not ego metter. For example fury warrior doing some thunderclap/demoshout from time to time, hunter concentrated on good crowd control, doing FD before he will pull aggro, stop dps if he crits few times in row etc.


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#23 2007-05-15 16:19:27

Ninjashammy
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Re: Going Enhancement

Warsaw wrote:

Ninjashammy wrote:

Then i have a bet with my m8 that im gonna top dps meter in ML....

No offence m8ty but if someone is going to ML to be first in DM... sigh. You know that most important duty for rogues it to interrupt heals for example? Hunters have to freeze trap, mage to counterspell etc. Now, if they will all be looking on dm, M will die in 1st tryout wanna bet? wink

It's nice to doing instances with ppl looking for overall profit of the raid not ego metter. For example fury warrior doing some thunderclap/demoshout from time to time, hunter concentrated on good crowd control, doing FD before he will pull aggro, stop dps if he crits few times in row etc.

Aggro reduce is needed yes. But in raids maybe shaman is best for melee dps buffs. AND about silence Earth Shock would work if you can CS/Kick and stuff and Earth Shock is a great silence.

And for the melee buffs: 10%AP to the whole group and 77agi/83str to group. Thats nice.


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#24 2007-05-15 16:43:07

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From: Helsinki, Finland
Registered: 2005-08-26
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Re: Going Enhancement

earth shield heal aggro goes to the one with the earth shield, not the shaman who cast it.

also, shaman healing is.... _fine_

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#25 2007-05-15 17:17:07

Ninjashammy
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Re: Going Enhancement

Golrock wrote:

earth shield heal aggro goes to the one with the earth shield, not the shaman who cast it.

also, shaman healing is.... _fine_

Not atleast not at KTM there i gain threat for earth shield. But the person that has earth shiled gets the "healing done".


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