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Frostspell · 2007-11-08 12:35:05

Posted by Kalgan on the mage forums:

It's a deliberate change. We initially felt like it was too quick at 30s and decided to test it out at 45s, but after playing with it for a while we felt like it opened mages to focus fire a little too much so we decided to keep it at 30s. It's worth pointing out that making changes like this and later un-doing them is not at all uncommon, it's just most of you generally don't see that process in action since it often happens before the patch even gets to the PTR.

Since I'm here, I'll also make a small pre-emptive strike against the incoming "what about other mage concerns!" replies I'm about to get and say the following.

Two things we'll be making improvements to in the near future (although these aren't likely to make it in on time for 2.3) are having iceblock be trainable (to make sure all mages have it as a tool for pve encounters and to open up other trees as being more viable options for pvp), and to-be-finalized improvements to mana issues in longer fights.

Source:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa … p;sid=1#33

I hope the new 20-point talent will be full of freezing goodness f.ex. reducing the cooldown on iceblock to 30sec

Kelthalas · 2007-11-08 13:32:14

great news, can't wait for that change. having ice block as a skill will definatly be a handy tool in pve.

Baloth · 2007-11-08 14:36:11

Not just that, it makes arcane/fire spec way more usable in arenas too.

sweter · 2007-11-09 19:19:29

Fiery shit.

KEK.

Only fools will spec frost after this?

Shadowkami · 2007-11-09 19:43:20

sweter wrote:
Fiery shit.

KEK.

Only fools will spec frost after this?

Maybe the frost pet? Can`t think of many more reasons to roll frost after this.

Apox · 2007-11-09 20:56:48

Mages, priests and warlocks have more survivability than paladins and warriors anyway, this just adds to cloth superiority
I guess the old arguement "...but you have plate" now could be used as an insult instead.

Littlemagee · 2007-11-09 20:57:41

This is not great for PvP'ers :<

Tanduli · 2007-11-09 21:13:00

Apox wrote:
Mages, priests and warlocks have more survivability than paladins and warriors anyway, this just adds to cloth superiority
I guess the old arguement "...but you have plate" now could be used as an insult instead.

when a warrior regen 10% hp from a random mace procc I feel otherwise

Last edited by Tanduli (2007-11-09 21:13:15)

Kelthalas · 2007-11-10 00:25:21

Apox wrote:
Mages, priests and warlocks have more survivability than paladins and warriors anyway, this just adds to cloth superiority
I guess the old arguement "...but you have plate" now could be used as an insult instead.

fire mages have so far NO tools what so ever to get rid of debuffs (magics, poisons and so on) and with our low hp it's kinda fatal with just 2 debuffs. When i fight a lock, in order to win, i have to kill him very fast and then sit down to eat some food so that i dont die from debuffs i can't remove. (im not that much of a pvp-guy so i can't own 5 ppl singlehandedly, ask sweter for that)
with ice block, mages now have improved survivability against the "DoT classes".

Shadowkami wrote:
sweter wrote:
Fiery shit.

KEK.

Only fools will spec frost after this?
Maybe the frost pet? Can`t think of many more reasons to roll frost after this.

You don't know what the new frost talent that will replace Ice Block is maybe it's make all mages wet in their pants

Last edited by Kelthalas (2007-11-10 00:26:17)

Baloth · 2007-11-10 02:26:04

Kelthalas wrote:
Apox wrote:
Mages, priests and warlocks have more survivability than paladins and warriors anyway, this just adds to cloth superiority
I guess the old arguement "...but you have plate" now could be used as an insult instead.
fire mages have so far NO tools what so ever to get rid of debuffs (magics, poisons and so on) and with our low hp it's kinda fatal with just 2 debuffs. When i fight a lock, in order to win, i have to kill him very fast and then sit down to eat some food so that i dont die from debuffs i can't remove. (im not that much of a pvp-guy so i can't own 5 ppl singlehandedly, ask sweter for that)
with ice block, mages now have improved survivability against the "DoT classes".
Shadowkami wrote:
sweter wrote:
Fiery shit.

KEK.

Only fools will spec frost after this?
Maybe the frost pet? Can`t think of many more reasons to roll frost after this.
You don't know what the new frost talent that will replace Ice Block is maybe it's make all mages wet in their pants

Must be a misplaced talent then, frost mages don't pee, they shoot icecicles from they're penis, so I conclude this spell must be a bit too hot for frost and definitely should be in the fire tree.

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#1 2007-11-08 12:35:05

Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#2 2007-11-08 13:32:14

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#3 2007-11-08 14:36:11

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#4 2007-11-09 19:19:29

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#5 2007-11-09 19:43:20

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

sweter wrote:

#6 2007-11-09 20:56:48

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#7 2007-11-09 20:57:41

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

#8 2007-11-09 21:13:00

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

Apox wrote:

#9 2007-11-10 00:25:21

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

Apox wrote:

Shadowkami wrote:

sweter wrote:

#10 2007-11-10 02:26:04

Re: Ice Block to be trainable in a future patch

Kelthalas wrote:

Apox wrote:

Shadowkami wrote:

sweter wrote:

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