The Enigma Order

Forbearance now reduces damage dealt by the affected player by 15%.

should be healing and damage...imho
it is a very powerful tool to cast BoP on a priest e.g

Last edited by Windir (2007-02-28 21:51:20)

Apox wrote:

After further testing, we've decided to undo the following changes to the Paladin for the next patch as we felt the adjustments were too imposing on the class' ability to tank in dungeons.

-Increased the duration of "Avenging Wrath" by 50% (now lasts 30 sec.) This ability no longer invokes "Forbearance", but shares a cooldown with "Divine Shield".

-Forbearance now reduces damage dealt by the affected player by 15%.

With that being said, we do feel that the Paladin is currently capable of producing too much burst damage and are investigating reasonable ways to make minor reductions for the future.

God damn I'm glad I'm not playing my paladin atm, cause then I'd be pissed of and ready to whine alot in gchat.

"too much burst damage" i lolled

yeah, blizzard claimed that avenging wrath was never intended to cause forbearance, but was supposed to share cooldown with DS instead, and the fact that it doesn't share cooldown with DS was a bug... I lol'ed...

Guess what this page says: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla … pells.html

"Avenging Wrath    

Requires Level 70
Instant cast
3 min cooldown

Increases all damage caused by 30% for 20 sec. Causes Forebearance."

The bug wrote all that too?

Apox wrote:

yeah, blizzard claimed that avenging wrath was never intended to cause forbearance, but was supposed to share cooldown with DS instead, and the fact that it doesn't share cooldown with DS was a bug... I lol'ed...

Guess what this page says: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla … pells.html

"Avenging Wrath    

Requires Level 70
Instant cast
3 min cooldown

Increases all damage caused by 30% for 20 sec. Causes Forebearance."

The bug wrote all that too.

Hehe, this reminds me of the time when they added vulnerability bonuses from negative resists to the combat log, only to claim in a later patch that negative resists were an unintended bug that was now fixed.

The annoying part is not so much the fact that they are nerfing various skills for balancing purposes. It's the fact that they try to use the Jedi-mindtrick on us by claiming that they are "fixing bugs" rather than balancing.

Last edited by xzar (2007-03-01 01:06:43)

This was undocumented in the first part, meaning it was in NO PATCHNOTES.

It was discovered by paladin players on the PTR and then after serious whine they commented it and then "removed it"

Basically because of stuff like that, I did what I have been meaning to do for ages, stop my account. so from 01.23 01.03.07 I don`t pay for this game anymore \o/

If enough people stop playing the game, maybe blizzard will get the point in the end.

Geirkri wrote:

Basically because of stuff like that, I did what I have been meaning to do for ages, stop my account. so from 01.23 01.03.07 I don`t pay for this game anymore \o/
If enough people stop playing the game, maybe blizzard will get the point in the end.

YES PLEASE LET MORE PEOPLE STOP PAYING, LETS SHOW BLIZZ THAT THIS GAME IS SO BORING THAT WE HAVE HARD TIMES TRYING NOT TO SLEEP EVERY TIME WE LOG INTO WOW.

Geircry: "Less QQ more Pew Pew".

sweter wrote:

Geirkri wrote:

Basically because of stuff like that, I did what I have been meaning to do for ages, stop my account. so from 01.23 01.03.07 I don`t pay for this game anymore \o/
If enough people stop playing the game, maybe blizzard will get the point in the end.

YES PLEASE LET MORE PEOPLE STOP PAYING, LETS SHOW BLIZZ THAT THIS GAME IS SO BORING THAT WE HAVE HARD TIMES TRYING NOT TO SLEEP EVERY TIME WE LOG INTO WOW.

Geircry: "Less QQ more Pew Pew".

I did pew pew for like what 1 1\2 year? at some point you hit a wall, this was it.

That + the fact that I cba grinding when I got other stuff to do (you should know you had RL for a while). :p

sweter wrote:

Geirkri wrote:

sweter wrote:

YES PLEASE LET MORE PEOPLE STOP PAYING, LETS SHOW BLIZZ THAT THIS GAME IS SO BORING THAT WE HAVE HARD TIMES TRYING NOT TO SLEEP EVERY TIME WE LOG INTO WOW.

Geircry: "Less QQ more Pew Pew".

I did pew pew for like what 1 1\2 year? at some point you hit a wall, this was it.

That + the fact that I cba grinding when I got other stuff to do (you should know you had RL for a while). :p

Yeah i understand it, but i laugh at "guys lets stop paying and blizz will fix it" kind of a whine...

it actually has much truth to it, if people just say "we will stop playing" it won`t help.. but if like 100k cancel their subscription (remember you get to play whatever time you have left on the account) blizzard may actually get some points. They have a bad habit of doing things that gets people pissed off

anyways, this topic is getting so offtopic its bad.

come to Bergen sweter, and i`ll give you a beer and have an irl chat over it!

Gogeta wrote:

At these moments as a lvl 60 pala owner, im proud to say that im the owner of a lvl 70 Rogue.
But yeah these constant nerfs are just bs..and the owners of lvl 70 palas should just keep on playing?? while the class is getting heavy nerfs that makes the playing "not so enjoyable"..The PvP between classes is so unbalanced atm..huge nerfs for every class almost, just to make the owners of those classes whine/reroll/quit..i can't see the point of this from Blizzard..Blizzard clearly don't know how to balance the game and by that they try to fix all the buffs they've added to nerf them or nerf something else..Blizzard is clearly going in the wrong direction.

Thank you for actually understanding our problems even if you don't play paladin as your main. Everyone else just say "nref pallies" or "l2play"

denatus wrote:

Nah, lets make paladins unkillable and overpowered, thats would make the game fun

funny how you of all people should understand, but I guess playing a mage and having no problems in the world kinda does that to you.

You`re survivability is still awesome

Vulshok wrote:

basically: get over your short commings and start enjoying the game. Else there is no point in playing at all.

I will, that's why I'm not playing paladin, cause it's the only class I know of that only have 2 talent trees, namely Holy and Prot. Retribution is not an option at all anylonger.