The Enigma Order

Badge farming when we are actually on the boss... (silience)

here is a nice guide written for the warlock tank:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm … &sid=1

I suggest you read it if you want to tank him at some point, its very well written

doing good guys?
if a decision is made we're going SSC this reset, ale we good to have a try at him?

need anything particular in that matter, other than badges, people could help getting (just don't say 'gold'?

arilia wrote:

Still waiting for something similar to when we gave our tanks resist gear for Hydross...

This must be one of the most greedy things i've read on these forums yet.

There was already explained that you would get some dkp for getting FR stuff..

dude,.. get a grip.

ofc i am.. some of the other warlocks are working to get their gear, you want others to do the job for you.
Start collecting, so we can advance in SSC.

Im not doing anything?
I can assure you, that im doing more than most people, and i know that most Classleaders, Officers and active raiders will back me up on this one.

The fact that you come with a comment on that you will wait for GB to sponsor you, is in my eyes a sign, that you wont do anything on your own to help the guild progress. - how many badges have you spend on FR gear so far?
I do not recall getting any wispers from you, asking if i want to help out in some heroics, so you can get the badges needed.

and dont give me the L2R bull.. here is what There was Written:

Solok wrote:

In order to do this we will need to get as much of the Epic FR set that you can get from the heroic badges.

cant see that it says you need 1k gold to spend on a single boss.

Also.. you havent even asked if the guildbanks had some primal fires, you just sit back and wait for it to arrive in the mail,,, what about doing something about it?? thats all im asking for..

So stop expecting others to do the work, and get started.. then we can talk about doing something for the guild.

arilia wrote:

It's simply hilarious how you expect others to contribute when you don't do anything.

And just one more side note to this.

I know it must be hard for you too see that we are some that are working our asses off, to make the raid as smooth as possible, spending hours in advance with signups, reading tacs etc...

Warriors are constantly respeccing for raids, thats 55g everytime they want to do arena, grind something etc outside raids.. respec for leo? i see thats hard for you =/

Woot?? you need to get gear outside an instance   - news flash.. alot of people in the guild have been farming their asses off, to get good enough gear for us to go anywhere.. From rogues having to do arenas in order to get something powerful enough to make a difference, to some of our druids who are willingly speccing resto for a raid if we need healers, and are bidding with their dkp on gear, so they can do an effencient job.

Its not everyone here, who like you, choose to slack on the raid, beeing unprepaired, semi afk, unfocused for raids, and let a raid stand for its final attempt for a boss fully buffed and ready to go, just waiting 5 min before you decide that it might be about time you stop spamming a channel, and get you ass back into the raid.

You are rude, doing noting but writing shit and spamming, and are in my eyes not an asset to our raids in any ways. The fact that you decide to say that kind of bull, in a weak attempt to save your self from doing anything for a change, makes me just that more sertain, that you are not a person i would like to see in any place, where it actually takes something from each raiding member before we succed.

After yesterdays raid, where we discussed your focus in officer channel i decided that this was something i would have talked to you in private about one of the following days, but i might as well say it now, because i get really pissed about you trying to do a personal attack like that.

Get yout act strait.. this isnt 40 man raiding, where you can slack your way through progression raids anymore.. we actually require something from our raiders now, i dont know if this comes as an big surprise for you.

Haha!

You people... The reason I wrote what I wrote (my first post that made everyone lose their minds) was because I _really_ thought something similar to the hydross-case was about to be announced. Since it's the exact same situation.

..And then you start this witch-hunt, calling be greedy and are extremely judgmental. I can only describe this as really really sad. Especially when it comes from Warsaw and Lydo, who I really like.

But since it's already started...

My points is, which you refuse to see, that it's very easy to sit around, telling other to Do stuff in order to being able to progress in PvE.
And I'm not talking about Your role in the guild Mojo, or what you have done for TEO. - Which is highly irrelevant in this case. I'm, of course, talking about topic.

And you have, i a very narrow-minded way, made it clear that I'm greedy. "OK".  But please. Please tell me the difference between this and the Hydross-case. Or AQ40. Or what so ever. It's like you're avoiding it.

Mojorising wrote:

Also.. you haven't even asked if the guildbanks had some primal fires, you just sit back and wait for it to arrive in the mail,,, what about doing something about it?? thats all im asking for..

Eh? So now the guildbank might be able to sponser us? It's just a question about me asking for mats, rather than you asking me? O.o

Mojorising wrote:

cant see that it says you need 1k gold to spend on a single boss.

Nope, but it will cost me around 500g, as I wrote before. That's a fact.


Anyhow, it's really interesting to see how you handle these kind of things...

Mojorising wrote:

arilia wrote:

It's simply hilarious how you expect others to contribute when you don't do anything.

And just one more side note to this.

I know it must be hard for you too see that we are some that are working our asses off, to make the raid as smooth as possible, spending hours in advance with signups, reading tacs etc...

Warriors are constantly respeccing for raids, thats 55g everytime they want to do arena, grind something etc outside raids.. respec for leo? i see thats hard for you =/

Woot?? you need to get gear outside an instance   - news flash.. alot of people in the guild have been farming their asses off, to get good enough gear for us to go anywhere.. From rogues having to do arenas in order to get something powerful enough to make a difference, to some of our druids who are willingly speccing resto for a raid if we need healers, and are bidding with their dkp on gear, so they can do an effencient job.

Its not everyone here, who like you, choose to slack on the raid, beeing unprepaired, semi afk, unfocused for raids, and let a raid stand for its final attempt for a boss fully buffed and ready to go, just waiting 5 min before you decide that it might be about time you stop spamming a channel, and get you ass back into the raid.

You are rude, doing noting but writing shit and spamming, and are in my eyes not an asset to our raids in any ways. The fact that you decide to say that kind of bull, in a weak attempt to save your self from doing anything for a change, makes me just that more sertain, that you are not a person i would like to see in any place, where it actually takes something from each raiding member before we succed.

After yesterdays raid, where we discussed your focus in officer channel i decided that this was something i would have talked to you in private about one of the following days, but i might as well say it now, because i get really pissed about you trying to do a personal attack like that.

Get yout act strait.. this isnt 40 man raiding, where you can slack your way through progression raids anymore.. we actually require something from our raiders now, i dont know if this comes as an big surprise for you.

When I top the dmg-meters, don't die in ridiculous ways like soo many others, especially on Al'ar yesterday, and in general preform well in raids - You have no right, what so ever to call me unfocused.

I do, on the other hand, think our raids lately have been unbelievingly dull. People keep dying on trash, healing is assigned badly, tanks don't know what to tank etc etc. Which all leads up to a big WIPE. And that how our raids have been like lately, which is a well-known fact. Dull. And I much rather talk to people in /enigma or /1 than seeing the _same_ people do the _same_ mistakes over and over again. Talking about me slacking in raids etc is just lack of better arguments, which I wont even reply to.

And this is what matters, and I'll write this in caps since you doesn't seem to understand: IT'S HOW YOU PREFORM IN THE RAIDS THAT MATTERS.

Simply as that.

About personal-attacks? Please. What you just did, in this quote above is a personal-attack. What I did was just to answer to your accusations.

Just the fact that you base your defense by saying you top dmg meters, dont die in rediculous ways and seeing the same  people do the same mistakes over and over again shows me, that you have no clue what so ever about raiding 25 man instances, or what progression raids are all about.

Raiding might be boring for you, but we are many that likes it, and who are you signing up, if all you do is chat in enigma and general.. to me, thats part of raids going bad.

If you see healing is assigned badly, and that we all are doing stupid mistakes over and over again, why not share your thoughts instead of just thinking "this is dull, let me do something else, earn my dkp for a wipenight, and then dont do shit untill i get my gear from guildbank". This is a team game, and what you said about you are not unfocused in raids i can tell you we were 24 people who could prove you wrong last night.

As you said your self, its how you perform in raids that matters. Its not topping dmg meter or avoid to die.. Its about doing what is needed from you, so we dont keep on doing the same mistakes.

arilia wrote:

I honostly think the other 23 (not including you plus me) judge me by how I play. Not what I'm writing in /enigma. Which is soo irreverent. (Btw, 80% of everything you state is - irreverent.)

Fact is that you where too busy writing on /enigma, to answer in raid chat. Thats not really focused is it?

YaaaaY i love drama ,
what did i miss?